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nancylebov ([personal profile] nancylebov) wrote2006-10-11 02:33 pm
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What's getting to me about the Foley thing

As bad things go, what Foley did was only fair-to-middling bad. As a result of it, political careers will be ended and elections will probably be affected. There might be criminal charges.

At the same time, the US government has been torturing people, sometimes to death. It's quite plausible that this is still going on, what with all those prisoners being held in secret. A law has been passed making it legal to hold prisoners indefinitely in secret. This has not had nearly as much political effect as the Foley scandal, and the legitimizing of torture doesn't seem to be a big issue in the upcoming election.

I begin to suspect that I am surrounded by crazy people.

[identity profile] pecunium.livejournal.com 2006-10-12 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Torture, no matter where, is always wrong.

No ifs, ands, or buts.

There is no shade of grey, and no bargaining positions to be worked with. I don't really understand that idea anyway. If one side tortures people, they have no moral standing to protest being tortured.

But what, saying we only torture as a tit-for-tat issue? That non-torture is a quid pro quo?

No.

Torture is immoral, impractical, and evil.

That it fails in its aims (the collection of actionable information) is just a grace note.

TK