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nancylebov ([personal profile] nancylebov) wrote2005-07-17 09:01 am

Very fine essay about types of fantasy

Here's a discussion of numinous vs. playful fantasy.
I feel no impulse to defend Harry Potter on the grounds that the books follow this sort of higher fantasy tradition -- frankly, there isn't much in the Potter books that strikes me as numinous. There's nothing there to fill one with the sort of awe you feel in a great cathedral, or when reading of Arwen's death, away from all family and kin, without another soul beside her, Aragorn and immortality both gone. But this seems utterly irrelevant to me. For some reason, Byatt (who ought to know better) completely ignores the "non-numinous tradition" (for lack of a better word) of magic books.

From Alice In Wonderland to James Thurber's delightful fairy tales The Wonderful O and The 13 Clocks, to The Phantom Tollbooth, there is a heady and wonderful ancestry of magical books that Harry Potter fits as easily as a missing puzzle piece.

At the moment, I'm looking at the sense in which wordplay (which is a rather rarified pleasure, or at least not a sensory one) is still part of ordinary life.

(The essay is from 2003--no spoilers for anything current.)

Link from [livejournal.com profile] cija in this thread.

[identity profile] dcseain.livejournal.com 2005-07-17 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, what am i missing in the name Dubledore? I can parse it into Dumb le Doré, but am stumped beyond that.

[identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com 2005-07-17 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see the wordplay in Dumbledore, either, so I can't help you out.

[identity profile] cija.livejournal.com 2005-07-17 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's an antiquated word for 'bumblebee', I believe.

[identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com 2005-07-18 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard that, but I can't see how Dumbledore is like a bumblebee.

Some of the characters have probably significant names--Dolores (sadness) Umbridge (offended pride), Minerva (goddess of war and wisdom) Gonagle, Sybil (prophetess) Trelawney. I don't know whether the latter two last names signify anything.

[identity profile] orangemike.livejournal.com 2005-07-18 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. According to the OED, the components 'dumble-' and 'dor' mean "stupid, dull, slow" and "loudly humming insect" respectively.

Perhaps it refers to his outward aspect as a seemingly inoffensive bumbler of a fellow? Not flashy or showy, like the gilded Gilderoy Lockhart?

Potter name etymologies

[identity profile] orangemike.livejournal.com 2005-07-18 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a whole Potter Name Etymology website at http://www.theninemuses.net/hp/3.html but it's pretty amateurish (in the deprecatory sense of the term).

The name is celebrated in Cornish history. It originates in a local land unit of Cornwall called a 'barton': the barton of Trelawny, in the parish of Alternun; and another barton called Trelawn or Trelawny in Pelynt parish. Trelaun in turn means 'open town' or 'clean town' in Cornish, according to page 126 of Patronymica Cornu-Britannica, or the Etymology of Cornish Surnames by Richard Stephen Charnock, Ph.Dr., F.S.A., F.R.G.S.; London: Longmans, Green, Reader and Dyer, 1870.