PUA, BDSM, consent

In a fit of blithering idiocy, I'm involved in discussion of PUA at Less Wrong, and it occurred to me that the most careful and thorough discussions of consent I've ever seen have been related to BDSM.

(PUA is Pick Up Artistry-- a grouping of sub-cultures of men who use methods ranging from the good (become the sort of man women are attracted to) to the skeevy (insult beautiful women to get their attention because they discount compliments-- this is called negging and I'm not making it up).)

PUA strikes me as generally sloppy about consent (including the assumption that women just prefer men who take charge), and I'm wondering if there's a good discussion of it from a BDSM angle.

PUA, BDSM, consent

In a fit of blithering idiocy, I'm involved in discussion of PUA at Less Wrong, and it occurred to me that the most careful and thorough discussions of consent I've ever seen have been related to BDSM.

(PUA is Pick Up Artistry-- a grouping of sub-cultures of men who use methods ranging from the good (become the sort of man women are attracted to) to the skeevy (insult beautiful women to get their attention because they discount compliments-- this is called negging and I'm not making it up).)

PUA strikes me as generally sloppy about consent (including the assumption that women just prefer men who take charge), and I'm wondering if there's a good discussion of it from a BDSM angle.