nancylebov: blue moon (Default)
[personal profile] nancylebov
I've got a commission to letter a five-verse poem. In the interests of making it easy to frame the piece, it'd be better not to do the verses as one long column.

Do you think it would be easier to read with the verses in this order

1 2
3 4
5

or

1 3
2 4
5

?

Date: 2005-06-06 08:02 pm (UTC)
nwhyte: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nwhyte
There's no way people will read

1 3
2 4
5

correctly.

You might have a chance though with

1|3
2|4
 5

but not without some visible separator between the columns.

The other possibility is

1 4
2 5
3

if you can't centre the bottom cell. But even that is fraught with difficulty.

Date: 2005-06-06 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
Thanks. My intention in the post was to have spaces between the collomns and the 5s centered, but lj helpfully takes out my white spaces.

My notion is to use ornamentation to force reading with dividers/ornamentation as you suggest or with

1 2
___

3 4

___

5


but I'm still curious about whether there's a preference.

Date: 2005-06-06 08:18 pm (UTC)
nwhyte: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nwhyte
You can put in whitespaces (though not very well) by writing   - otherwise whitespaces at the start of a line, or in sequences of more than one, are stripped out.

I have to say my gut feeling would be for

12
34
5

but it depends on the poem.

Date: 2005-06-06 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kip-w.livejournal.com
This is the one I would have suggested.

Date: 2005-06-07 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suecochran.livejournal.com
I would have a preference for this one.

Date: 2005-06-06 08:04 pm (UTC)
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea, in a friend's kitchen (Default)
From: [personal profile] redbird
If those are the choices, definitely the first.

I might consider

1 4
2 5
3

but if I have columns that begin

1
2

I'm going to expect to keep reading down to the bottom, as if it were a two-column magazine layout.

Date: 2005-06-06 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sturgeonslawyer.livejournal.com
How about setting lines 2 and a little below 1 and 3 (respectively), but not a full line down; this would create something of a vertical flowdown without using the full space.

Put more concretely, something like this:

111111111
111111111
111111111....2222222222
111111111....2222222222
..................2222222222
..................2222222222

333333333
333333333
333333333....4444444444
333333333....4444444444
..................4444444444
..................4444444444

555555555
555555555
555555555
555555555

Date: 2005-06-06 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sturgeonslawyer.livejournal.com
Aaaak. Didn't quite get the offsets for the second halves of the even numbered lines right - but I think the idea is clear...

Date: 2005-06-06 09:05 pm (UTC)
cellio: (writing)
From: [personal profile] cellio
That's what I thought of too.

Date: 2005-06-06 08:30 pm (UTC)
ext_90666: (Krosp thinking)
From: [identity profile] kgbooklog.livejournal.com
I've only seen two-column poems a couple times (mostly from [livejournal.com profile] papersky), and no matter how many times I read them through, I've never been able to figure out what the correct order is. But I'm not a poetry person.

If I was doing it, I'd probably just delete the line breaks after each odd-numbered line. Or maybe do this:

_1111_______
_1111_______
_1111_______
_1111__2222_
_______2222_
_______2222_
_3333__2222_
_3333_______
_3333_______
_3333__4444_
_______4444_
_______4444_
_5555__4444_
_5555_______
_5555_______
_5555_______

Date: 2005-06-06 08:34 pm (UTC)
zenlizard: Because the current occupation is fascist. (Default)
From: [personal profile] zenlizard
1...2
3...4
..5

Is probably the best. Take a look at a comic book page with a five-panel layout: chances are, it's as outlined that way. If it isn't, it almost certainly has arrows explicitly stating where one goes from here.

And this is the third or fourth time I've tried to post this reply. Grrrrr...

Date: 2005-06-06 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
Thanks, and the periods are a handy solution to the whitespace problem.

Date: 2005-06-06 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'll vote for:

1 | 4
2 | 5
3


- Captain Button

Date: 2005-06-07 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nitebytes.livejournal.com
There's no way in hell that anyone will read
1 3
2 4
5
Correctly without extra fuidance (arrows or something)

Perhaps something like?
1 | 3
2 | 4
  | 5


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