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https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/18/ai-researchers-made-a-sarcasm-detection-model-and-its-soo-impressive

China is doing this-- not just China (more in additional links), but this is terrifying. People there may have to guess how much enthusiasm is too much enthusiasm.

A lot of people would like to be able to detect sarcasm mechanically, it's not just about censorship.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/08/18/inside-the-surprisingly-high-stakes-quest-to-design-a-computer-program-that-gets-sarcasm-online/

Discussion (this could be used as training material for the AL):
https://www.metafilter.com/189427/rolls-eyes

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.00123/full

Somewhat interesting, but not very good. Keeps talking about Easterners when they mean China. And I have no idea whether all Westerners-- or all western cultures-- have similar attitudes about humor.

Definition of the four styles of humor cites: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/cutting-edge-leadership/201504/the-4-styles-humor

At greater length:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humor_styles

With some examples:

https://www.humorthatworks.com/how-to/the-four-styles-of-humor/

The four styles of humor don't seem to include puns.

A better humor typology.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/07/19/there-are-nine-different-types-of-humour-which-one-are-you_a_23036626/

Date: 2020-11-19 11:18 am (UTC)
madfilkentist: My cat Florestan (gray shorthair) (Default)
From: [personal profile] madfilkentist
I haven't read all the linked articles, and it's early in the morning, but here are a few thoughts:

Anything coming from China on how to tell what people are thinking is scary.

The idea that one can't express sarcasm in writing is clearly based on the fact that nowhere in the history of literature have authors successfully conveyed sarcastic intent. (I said that in writing, so I should explain that I was being sarcastic.)

A </sarcasm> tag once made its way into an HTML draft. It exists only in the closing tag form. My 2011 article on the tag is the first result when I do a search, which must be an indication of its obscurity. Look at the comments by [personal profile] thnidu as well.

You're right that thinking there is one "eastern" and one "western" mindset is pretty feeble.

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