Date: 2008-11-13 01:55 pm (UTC)
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea, in a friend's kitchen (Default)
From: [personal profile] redbird
Maybe they figure it's easier if you know what problems you'll have?

My family had a mutt when I was growing up (starting at age 10, I think); my parents had some idea of what to expect, because they adopted a puppy from a litter a friend's dog had, so they knew one side of the family, at least. But I think that was "well, the mother is a nice dog, and we have an idea of how big the puppy will get," not specific expectations of personality.

Date: 2008-11-13 01:56 pm (UTC)
twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
From: [personal profile] twistedchick
This is a generalization, but I have found that the people who complain the most about their dogs' behavior are the ones who can't find the time to pay attention to the dogs and train them. Training requires that they learn to think like their dog and be smarter than the dog. It's not something everyone does well, but every dog owner should be doing it.

Date: 2008-11-13 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
Still, I get the impression that some breeds are more challenging than others. A while ago, I was poking around terrier sites, and they all said "not recommended for the inexperienced owner". Apparently, you're supposed to start out with a half-terrier for practice.

Date: 2008-11-13 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nellorat.livejournal.com
Yes, and even a pro-dachshund book said, "It is not surprising that a dog bred to hunt badgers in their own lair would be strongly independent." What a euphemism.

Date: 2008-11-13 07:07 pm (UTC)
twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
From: [personal profile] twistedchick
Terriers, some hounds, and certain varieties of sheepdog (border collie, for instance) were bred as *working* dogs, not companion animals. They want work to do. They want to chase things, dig stuff out, herd whatever's moving and chew things till they're dead, because that's what they're supposed to do. Anyone who doesn't understand that should get a different kind of dog.

Date: 2008-11-13 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
Unquestionably. But that implies people who have such dogs aren't failing to train them properly.

Date: 2008-11-13 09:19 pm (UTC)
twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
From: [personal profile] twistedchick
It implies nothing of the sort.

Date: 2008-11-13 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
Excuse me-- I was being sloppy.

It implies that people who have difficulties with such dogs aren't necessarily failing to give them enough attention and train them.

Date: 2008-11-14 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sterlingspider.livejournal.com
Some breeds are definitely more challenging then others, but if everyone wanted the same dog there wouldn't be so many kinds.

Each of these breed typical personality types has its purpose and if a good match is made between breed type, dog (as of course there are ranges of expected behavior), and owner then there's no problem.

Anyone who thinks a rottie (a classically INCREDIBLY laid back breed) and a goldendoodle are comparable enough in personality to think that having an older rottie should have prepared them for the experience of a doodle is just setting themselves up for failure.

You might as well plant an oak tree and then curse it for not giving you apples.

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Edited Date: 2008-11-14 12:09 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-11-13 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sterlingspider.livejournal.com
Golden labs and poodles are both INCREDIBLY high energy dogs. They're both hunting dogs who've been bred for generations (centuries for the poodle) to run around fields/swim about in water for hours and love it!

Anyone who gets a goldendoodle thinking they're going to get a mellow, chill about the house, Nana from Peter Pan sort of dog is guilty of not doing their research and I'd say they get what they deserve, but that's doing a grave disservice to the dog who is really the one suffering the most.

Most people have no idea whats involved in properly caring for a dog, especially one with even moderate exercise needs. I truly and deeply love dogs, and that is exactly why as a busy working stiff who enjoys sleeping in the morning and taking weekend jaunts out of state I don't have one.

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