Date: 2010-12-15 08:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] schemingreader
This story is really old, did it come up again because the same thing just happened in New Zealand? I find it a lot more surprising that people had never seen tefillin in NY than in New Zealand!

Date: 2010-12-15 01:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sethg
When a friend of mine had her daughter, I went to visit her in the hospital, but I arrived after visiting hours were over. “Are you a relative?” the receptionist asked. Without missing a beat, I said, “I’m the father’s chevruta.” And they let me in.

Date: 2010-12-15 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaxe.livejournal.com
Oddly, I saw a different but similar story (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/nzealandreligionattacksisrael) recently:

Jewish ritual sparks New Zealand ferry bomb scare

WELLINGTON (AFP) – A religiously devout Israeli tourist sparked a bomb scare on a New Zealand ferry when he strapped boxes to himself as part of a Jewish prayer ritual, reports said Monday.

Armed counter-terrorism police met the ferry at Picton, on the South Island, and forced the man and his travelling companion to the ground before taking them away for questioning, the Dominion Post newspaper reported.

It said the incident Sunday occurred when the man began carrying out a Jewish ritual where small leather boxes called tefillin, containing religious verses, are strapped to the arm and forehead.

Ferry operator Kiwirail said staff on the vessel, which had 750 passengers aboard, were concerned about a possible bomb threat and contacted police before it docked.

"One individual had two boxes attached, one box taped to his leg and one box seemingly taped to his forehead... there were what seemed to be wires attached to them," Kiwirail spokesman Kevin Ramshaw told national news agency NZPA.

New Zealand Race Relations Commissioner Joris de Bres said the armed response was unfortunate and showed "an exaggerated fear of terrorism" in the country.

"It's just a reminder we ought to pause and think before we jump to conclusions," he told the Dominion Post.

Police confirmed a man was questioned after reports he was acting suspiciously on the ferry and later released.


I'm not surprised, but somewhat sad that this could happen. Then again, consider the decline in the use of tefillin, now essentially restricted to Orthodox Jews, where other symbols of Judaism and its prayer (notably the yarmulke, and somewhat less, the tallit) are fairly well known even among non-Jews. (The tallit is still tolerably well known due to photos of prayer at the Western Wall.)

Date: 2010-12-15 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dichroic.livejournal.com
Something's weird somewhere in there - probably in the Kiwirail reporting. Otherwise, why would any Jew have tefillin "taped" to his *leg*?

I'd feel less alienated if that article hadn't put tefillin in scare quotes. And that's despite the fact that (as a girl raised Conservative) I've never worn them in my life.

Date: 2010-12-15 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaxe.livejournal.com
I have no idea why they'd be "taped to his leg". I'd be inclined to question that as a perceptual error, but stranger things have happened.

Date: 2010-12-15 02:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tod-hollykim.livejournal.com
::sigh:: Just :;sigh:: I mean, I'm a goy and I *know* what the heck those things are! Just watch a few *old* movies like Fiddler on the Roof or that and you'll learn.

yeah, I know, I can't yell at the people involved, but it helps to vent.






bloody idiots.

Date: 2010-12-15 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
This kind of knowledge is very regional, and, I suppose, temporal. It wouldn't surprise me if there's a generation of people who mostly haven't seen Fiddler on the Roof.[1]

I've noticed that people in general are more likely to understand the badges I sell that have Jewish references when I'm near New York than when I'm near Baltimore. And that's not even thinking about parts of the country where there are very few Jews.

[1] Sidetrack: I wish there were a popular musical built around klezmer music.

Date: 2010-12-15 04:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tod-hollykim.livejournal.com
And part of my knowledge also comes from living in New Jersey, near Lakewood.

I can remember a couple of times when I was living in NYC and going down home for the weekend (in summer) where we'd be getting near Lakewood on the bus as well as getting near sunset. There might be a man or two that would stop the bus to get off a bit before the station. Simply because it was getting too near sunset.

Date: 2010-12-15 05:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] andrewducker
Maybe the guards had just been playing too much D&D.

Date: 2010-12-15 05:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] madfilkentist
The flight was met by law enforcement personnel and officials from the Transportation Security Administration.
 
The teen was interviewed...

I have to wonder what the "interview" was like, and how many hours it was before he was allowed to go on his way.

Date: 2010-12-15 06:11 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-12-15 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squid314.livejournal.com
I know exactly what tefillin are, but if someone told me they had a phylactery I'd assume they were a lich.

Date: 2010-12-15 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beatnikbetty.livejournal.com
50,000 reasons why TSA is wasting time, money, and violating privacy.

Date: 2010-12-17 01:00 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Didn't Ellen Kushner just talk of her--let's see--"feminist klezmer magical realist shtetl musical" radio drama (starring Neil Gaiman) at the PSFS meeting? The Witches of Lublin, coming in spring to NPR.

Date: 2010-12-17 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
Damn, I missed the December meeting.

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