A logistical Potter question
Jul. 19th, 2005 09:54 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Without going into any spoilerish details, I'll note that Rowling has set up a lot of story that'll have to be covered in the last book. Which would you rather have--a really long wait till book 7, or an announcement that it's just 2 or 3 three years till 7, but there's gonna be a book 8?
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Date: 2005-07-19 04:07 pm (UTC)I started to say "there's nothing sacred about seven" but then remembered that 7 is a good medicine number for my mother's tribe, and one I use a lot myself. But if the only reason for seven volumes is the Hogwarts school cycle, then to hell with the seven.
Many people would assume, of course, that the only reason to take it beyond seven volumes is to milk the readers for more money by stretching things out as long as possible (a/k/a [Robt.] Jordan's Disease). In fact, I have never felt that Rowling is padding things, or deliberately introducing complications so that she can spend extra pages resolving them.
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Date: 2005-07-19 04:34 pm (UTC)Wow. Really? It's the one problem I have with her. It bothered me most in book 4, which seems to do almost nothing *other than* introduce complications that make no sense and do nothing but make the book longer and the reader say "huh?" I'd be happy to tell you why I think so, but I don't want to assume that everyone has read book 4 so I'll keep this thread spoiler-free. Outside that book, I don't find that she introduces needless complications so much as goes on and on about the ones she's created and spends way too much time getting to where she's going.
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Date: 2005-07-19 06:03 pm (UTC)Also, it's quite possible that Voldemort will have made another horcrux after Dumbledore told Harry about seven of them.
There's a theory going around that V. accidentally made Harry into a horcrux.
I do think horcruxes are a brilliant idea, both horrible and an elegant fit for V.'s character, and I bet they're what Dumbledore was thinking about when he said in book 5 that there are worse things than death. At the time, I thought V. was going to get turned into a Muggle, and I still think it would have been an interesting story line.
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Date: 2005-07-20 12:04 am (UTC)Well (a) 7 seems to be a theme throughout the series: 7 years of schooling, 7 obstacles to the stone in Book 1... (b) some of them have been neutralized already, so it's really more like 4 to find.
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Date: 2005-07-20 04:19 am (UTC)I have several thoughts on this, and unfortunately they are chock-full of spoilerish details (though anyone who's read this far in the comments has hit most of my spoilers already). So here goes.
First, there are only 6 Horcruxes--Dumbledore says in Book 6 that the residuum of V's soul, so to speak, remains in his physical body. V's divided his soul 7 ways, all right, but for that only 6 Horcruxes are required.
Second, two of the Horcruxes are already gone. The first one was Tom Riddle's diary, and Dumbledore says in Book 6 that he's destroyed the second (the ring with the black stone) offstage, so to speak.
Third, the mysterious R.A.B. claims to have found, and to be in the process of destroying, the Horcrux Harry and Dumbledore spend so much of Book 6 trying to get.
So that may well leave only three Horcruxes for Harry to find and destroy (and he already has hints of what they are from his talks with Dumbledore), plus the final confrontation (and elucidating who R.A.B. is and why R.A.B. took a Horcrux and left a dummy in its place). I think that's doable in a final long book--particularly if much of it doesn't take place at Hogwarts (which Eric is convinced is the case).
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Date: 2005-07-20 12:28 pm (UTC)I also wouldn't be surprised if a lot of book 7 doesn't take place at Hogwarts, but I don't know whether that would tend to make the book longer or shorter--it could take a while to introduce one or more new environments, especially considering that Rowling seems to prefer inhabited places with complex histories.
How much of Hogwarts as an institution do you think is likely to survive?
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Date: 2005-07-21 03:06 am (UTC)I think most of it will. It seems to me that one of Rowling's points is that Hogwarts and the other wizarding schools (the ones in other countries, remember, from Book 4?) are a keystone of wizarding society. Heck, even Voldemort holds Hogwarts dear, in his twisted way, as Dumbledore points out to Harry in his discussion of where/what the remaining Horcruxes are likely to be.
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Date: 2005-07-20 04:02 am (UTC)I definitely don't want her stringing out Harry's quest to kill V. (for what else can book 7 be?) into multiple volumes. I just want to see book 7 as soon as reasonably possible.